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I don't know what results you are looking at but the Tories have an 80 seat majority

Your user name is not clown.

You mentioned voters. I've given you the breakdown of votes under four different Labour leaders, for four different General Elections.
You can't have it both ways, claiming that membership numbers were irrelevant and votes were also irrelevant.
 

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Splottty in deciding football club fan base demographic, derided from the fact that not enough working class/left leaning fans listened to an interview on the right wing Nick Ferrari show shocker.
 

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Well hold on just a minute.

I can recall a former poster, and a couple of his chums, basically saying this board was full of Leftys.

Speaking personally I haven't commented on Keir Starmers interview on LBS for a number of reasons:
1. I wasn't aware he's done an interview on LBC
2. I don't listen to LBC
3. I've been working.

I consider myself working class but my politics are centrist, maybe left of centre. I think the Tory party, in it's current form, is fundamentally evil. But I also have grave concerns about the Momentum faction within labour.

But the extreme left will never get elected in this country, to think otherwise is to bark at the moon imho.

For most of my lifetime, this country has been a two party system, Tory and New (centrist) labour.
To me ANYTHING is preferable than the Tories, and all you and the left are doing is handing votes to them.

Centrist is merely Tory-lite. Vote Starmer and get Mandelson and Blair as part of the deal.
 

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Your user name is not clown.

You mentioned voters. I've given you the breakdown of votes under four different Labour leaders, for four different General Elections.
You can't have it both ways, claiming that membership numbers were irrelevant and votes were also irrelevant.

Your statistics are not adjusted for increases in the electoral register

Now, if you want to look at how the share of the votes went under Corbyn, a FAR better statistic, i'm all ears :thumbup:
 

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Your statistics are not adjusted for increases in the electoral register

Now, if you want to look at how the share of the votes went under Corbyn, a FAR better statistic, i'm all ears :thumbup:

Put the goalposts down as they're dizzy from being moved around.

11,390,099, 41.9% vote share under Jeremy Corbyn.
8,609,527, 29% vote share under Gordon Brown.
8,087,706, 31.6% vote share under Ed Miliband
 

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Stop it, this is supposed to be a serious discussion. I've got a weak bladder and you're not helping it.
Would you have used Der Sturmer to provide us with a serious unbiased view, of the popularity of Nazi party ministers?

YouGov is a Tory mouthpiece, always has been and it always will be.



YouGov is a Tory mouthpiece apart from the time it was favourable to Corbyn....

Der Sturmer? Why would he need to use that when we've got you to parrot it?
 

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Put the goalposts down as they're dizzy from being moved around.

11,390,099, 41.9% vote share under Jeremy Corbyn.
8,609,527, 29% vote share under Gordon Brown.
8,087,706, 31.6% vote share under Ed Miliband

Care to evidence where 41.9% comes from? :hehe:

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Let's have it right Kiffa


 

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"stats for lefties" Tribune.

Well known sources in the statistical world.

EDIT Got to love someone claiming 41.9 then posts meh figures which include errm 42.3 and not 41.9.
 

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"stats for lefties" Tribune.

Well known sources in the statistical world.

Not only that, they forgot about Scotland entirely :hehe::hehe:

Not to mention Splotty not quoting the most recent performance of course
 

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Anyway, ignore the numeracy skills of Splotty, ironic really given his previous comment about someone not being intelligent enough to move out of Splott, the reality is he fails to grasp the political nature of modern Britain.

Britain is centrist. Elections are won on the middle ground. Splotty loves any hard leftie, fails to understand that Corbyn appealed to his core lefties and nobody else.

I did love Corbyn having his name chanted by muppets at a major capitalist event in Glastonbury though.
 

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Let's have it right Kiffa



Mares are hardly an answer to the very information that you requested. The notion that left-wing political values and principles, centered around policies which advocate for a fairer society for all, are un-electable are patently false.

Clearly those policies found favour with a large percentage of voters.

What followed the 2017 GE, was a concerted campaign by Tories, right-wing internal factions of Labour, newspaper billionaire owners, other media outlets, along with smear campaigns that were directed both with foreign and domestic lobbyists, all because Corbyn was seen by his opponents, as being highly electable.
 

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Mares are hardly an answer to the very information that you requested. The notion that left-wing political values and principles, centered around policies which advocate for a fairer society for all, are un-electable are patently false.

Clearly those policies found favour with a large percentage of voters.

What followed the 2017 GE, was a concerted campaign by Tories, right-wing internal factions of Labour, newspaper billionaire owners, other media outlets, along with smear campaigns that were directed both with foreign and domestic lobbyists, all because Corbyn was seen by his opponents, as being highly electable.

it wasn't the information i requested but there we go
 

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Centrist is merely Tory-lite. Vote Starmer and get Mandelson and Blair as part of the deal.
I would argue that Centrist is Labour-lite.

It is also possible to be centrist, without being a Blair supporter.
 

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I would argue that Centrist is Labour-lite.

It is also possible to be centrist, without being a Blair supporter.

Really? Is that why in addition to 'advising' Starmer, Blair 'advises' Matt Hancock as well? Not to mention taking $19.5 million off of Bill Gates for advocating on his behalf as well.
 

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I would argue that Centrist is Labour-lite.

It is also possible to be centrist, without being a Blair supporter.

not to Splotty

You're either Die hard Corbyn, or you're a fully paid up member of the Tories

No inbetween
 
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