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Brexit was never a panacea in itself. If you think is leavers believed the moment we left everything would be wonderful thats absurd. Its the start of the journey, not the destination.A great many voted for sunlight uplands, they're not getting that are they?
There were lies on both sides of the argument. Do you think if we stayed in, everything would suddenly be wonderful again? I suspect not, it never was so why would it become so.We were told that and a great many believed it.
My gran is annoyed that we're not spending £350m a week on the NHS.
Here we go thenThere were lies on both sides of the argument. Do you think if we stayed in, everything would suddenly be wonderful again? I suspect not, it never was so why would it become so.
Remainers seem to be lining up to play the "see, I told it would be awful card" when the reality is things will take a long time to change. Some impacts will be negative, some positive.
If we stayed in, here's what would have happened.There were lies on both sides of the argument. Do you think if we stayed in, everything would suddenly be wonderful again? I suspect not, it never was so why would it become so.
Rees-Mogg in a C4 interview:Nobody can comprehensively list positives and negatives at the moment. Some may point out a few negatives, other's may point out a few positives, but both sides are only going on how they currently see it.
Only time is going to tell us the true reality, and that will easily take another 25 years. Stamping one's feet isn't going to speed up that process, as much as the I am right you were were wrong brigade try
Which I found interesting, as the UK had only been part of the EU for 40 years.Rees-Mogg: “We will know at some point, of course we will. But it’s a question of timescale.”
Guru-Murthy: “So how long have you got?”
Rees-Mogg: “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.”
Guru-Murthy: “Of course not, but I mean we’ll have an indication. We’ll know if there’s been chaos, we’ll know if there have been job losses.”
Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.”
I have previously stated a number of times on here why I voted as I did. And I haven't seen anything to change my position. I would vote leave again today.Here we go then
List the quantifiable positives for us
You can argue that point both ways but my point stands. Its impossible to come to any conclusions yet. There will be down sides and up sides (as there would have been if we had remained in). To start throwing brickbats against Leavers is pointless until this thing unfolds. There never was going to be an instant change either way. I voted Leave for the long term benefit, not short term reasons.Technically we left in January. We’re currently in a transition period which ends next January.
Sorry, but no you can’t. We’ve left.You can argue that point both ways but my point stands. Its impossible to come to any conclusions yet. There will be down sides and up sides (as there would have been if we had remained in). To start throwing brickbats against Leavers is pointless until this thing unfolds. There never was going to be an instant change either way. I voted Leave for the long term benefit, not short term reasons.
What people are doing is pointing out that some leave voters, maybe not yourself, some farmers for instance, can have little right to complain about anything negatively affecting them post brexitI have previously stated a number of times on here why I voted as I did. And I haven't seen anything to change my position. I would vote leave again today.
I don't see any point in re-opening the debate on the merit as its done and dusted. My comments on here were in response to the "told you it would be shit" type posts when its just not possible to tell yet if we as a country made the right or wrong decision. Hell, we aint even left yet.
Ah well, why didnt you say earlier? If Jacob Rees Mogg said it, it must be trueSorry, but no you can’t. We’ve left.
And Jacob Rees Mogg is on the record as saying we won’t see any benefits (to anyone but himself) for fifty years.
So in my case, and I suspect for many of us, never.
I'll tell you what the destination is.If we stayed in, here's what would have happened.
The pound would be about $1.50.
Farage wouldn't have made a fortune on selling the pound after making strategic announcements about the referendum result (remember, he conceded defeat at 10:04pm)
Racists and far right people (and I ain't saying all leavers are far right or racist) wouldn't have felt justified to tell Polish people to eff off home.
The UK wouldn't have wasted billions, more than it ever spent on contrbutions, on trying to achieve Brexit
Britain would still be 4th biggest economy in the world.
Lots of people would still have retained their jobs, some will not be living in fear of losing their jobs in 2021
We wouldn't be inundated with Turks and Albanians (they still can't join).
I'm not saying everything would be great, but they wouldn't be anywhere as bad as they are at the moment - and that is without Covid. I am really interested in what you think the destination is. If we are to trade with the EU we would still have to abide by their standards anyway. And we have said that we would carry on with most of the rules anyway. I still don't get what the benefits will be in 20 years time, I hope there are loads but the likes of Johnson and Cummings and Gove will be long gone by then.
I hope I am wrong and you are right, but we've been sold a pup.
This Party Election broadcast was brought to you by the Angry Gammon PartyI'll tell you what the destination is.
f**k the EU and thier products.
Let's make them all ourselves.
We got the best minds here.
More British jobs then fro British people.
And if any Johnny foreigners want to come here, they have to pull their weight and contribute not come here to knock babies out and live in a 4 bedroom council house, where our war veterans could be housed.
We have , as a nation, start to make things that we were getting from the EU, cos the high street is going cos everyone buys off Amazon or online,
I couldn't care less if we lost football, and then the people could be put to blame for not purchasing sky tv and illegally streaming football.
This island has a great history, let's stop relying on the EU and get off our own arse.
Bloody remainers are a bunch of pussies mun.
Hand outs hand outs hand outs.