‘Jingoism’ of Wales and Scotland’s coverage at Euros ‘getting out of hand’ say Telegraph

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The pro-Welsh and Scottish slant of coverage of the Euro 2020 championship is “getting out of hand,” and amounts to “jingoism” according to the Telegraph newspaper.

The newspaper’s TV columnist Alan Tyers criticised the “excessive” commentary of Robbie Savage at the Turkey v Wales game and the subdued commentary on the Czech Republic’s amazing second goal against Scotland at Hampden Park.

It comes after the same newspaper previously complained that coverage of Wales’ game against Turkey amounted to “one-eyed cheerleading” and condemned the BBC for “inflicting” Robbie Savage onto their screens.

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“Henry Blofeld told this writer a few years ago that his very first producer at the BBC had warned him: ‘the first day you refer to England as ‘we’ is the last day you work here.’ It would be P45s all round if they tried that at Euro 2020,” Alan Tyers said.

“Nobody is looking to Robbie Savage for sober assessment, but his work on Wales vs Turkey was excessive, while the all-Scottish pundit crew’s portrayal of the Patrik Schick wondergoal as a tragic accident served no-one.

“Folk from Wales and Scotland might justifiably argue they’ve had a lifetime of sports commentators assuming the punter is an England supporter, but this fans-with-microphones fashion is getting out of hand, and cuddly jingoism is jingoism nonetheless.”

He went on to note that “Graeme Souness and his teeth dominating the screen during the England vs Scotland match, to the extent that even Roy Keane was pushed onto the back foot. Ian Wright has thus far been subdued.”

‘Emotion’

Alan Tyler’s comments for the paper follow those of sports commentator Daniel Schofield who complained that the analysis in the Turkey v Wales game “was less a considered breakdown of Rob Page’s tactics than an exercise in one-eyed cheerleading that some cyclops would consider excessive”.

“To be clear this is not Savage’s fault. ‘Paschun’ and the wearing of heart on his sleeve like cufflinks is as much part of his brand as his suspicious all-year round tan. Instead it is the BBC who must bear responsibility for inflicting Savage upon our ears,” he wrote.

“Putting Savage on co-commentary and expecting dispassionate erudite analysis is like giving a Rottweiler a bunny rabbit and hoping they become friends. This is the deliberate direction of travel, not just from the BBC but from ITV, Sky and BT Sport.

“From celebrating a five-yard pass to disputing every decision that went against his team, Savage did a grand job of embodying the emotions of every Wales supporter watching the game.”

However, Daniel Schofield does concede at the end of the article that perhaps England fans are only having to tolerate what Welsh and Scottish fans have put up with for decades.

“There will be no shortage of Welsh, Scottish and Irish readers happy to point out for much of the past 20 years they have had to put up with an overwhelming favouritism being shoved down their throat every time England are involved in a major tournament,” he ends.

“Which is true. Who knew that karma would come with blond locks and skinny jeans?”
 

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It will all end in Tyers
 

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Sore bastards the English. Hate not being the center of attention. Pathetic.
 

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The Telegraph.
The Sun for grown ups
Another fascist rag this time owned by those paragons of virtue The Barclay brothers
Pro biased English media …….,never
 

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Jealous fucking English, just because they have nothing to be passionate about.

I like Savage’s passion. The best line from Wales vs Belgium in 2016 was “Go and wake up your kids, history is being made!”
 

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Jealous fucking English, just because they have nothing to be passionate about.

I like Savage’s passion. The best line from Wales vs Belgium in 2016 was “Go and wake up your kids, history is being made!”
All the sour grapes when we had a homecoming for the semis spoke volumes
 

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Anyone who just watched half time in the Finland /Belgium game would disagree, media English bias as per, ferdinand is a fucking bell
 

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Pity he didn’t mention that nigh on all half time and full time segments include England even when they’re not fucking playing.
 

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They’re right that Savage is massively biased. He is.

But they have absolutely zero right to bring it up as being an issue. none at all.
 
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They’re right that Savage is massively biased. He is.

But they have absolutely zero right to bring it up as being an issue. none at all.
Bias is one thing. Jingoism is an English specialty though
 

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The pro-Welsh and Scottish slant of coverage of the Euro 2020 championship is “getting out of hand,” and amounts to “jingoism” according to the Telegraph newspaper.

The newspaper’s TV columnist Alan Tyers criticised the “excessive” commentary of Robbie Savage at the Turkey v Wales game and the subdued commentary on the Czech Republic’s amazing second goal against Scotland at Hampden Park.

It comes after the same newspaper previously complained that coverage of Wales’ game against Turkey amounted to “one-eyed cheerleading” and condemned the BBC for “inflicting” Robbie Savage onto their screens.

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“Henry Blofeld told this writer a few years ago that his very first producer at the BBC had warned him: ‘the first day you refer to England as ‘we’ is the last day you work here.’ It would be P45s all round if they tried that at Euro 2020,” Alan Tyers said.

“Nobody is looking to Robbie Savage for sober assessment, but his work on Wales vs Turkey was excessive, while the all-Scottish pundit crew’s portrayal of the Patrik Schick wondergoal as a tragic accident served no-one.

“Folk from Wales and Scotland might justifiably argue they’ve had a lifetime of sports commentators assuming the punter is an England supporter, but this fans-with-microphones fashion is getting out of hand, and cuddly jingoism is jingoism nonetheless.”

He went on to note that “Graeme Souness and his teeth dominating the screen during the England vs Scotland match, to the extent that even Roy Keane was pushed onto the back foot. Ian Wright has thus far been subdued.”

‘Emotion’

Alan Tyler’s comments for the paper follow those of sports commentator Daniel Schofield who complained that the analysis in the Turkey v Wales game “was less a considered breakdown of Rob Page’s tactics than an exercise in one-eyed cheerleading that some cyclops would consider excessive”.

“To be clear this is not Savage’s fault. ‘Paschun’ and the wearing of heart on his sleeve like cufflinks is as much part of his brand as his suspicious all-year round tan. Instead it is the BBC who must bear responsibility for inflicting Savage upon our ears,” he wrote.

“Putting Savage on co-commentary and expecting dispassionate erudite analysis is like giving a Rottweiler a bunny rabbit and hoping they become friends. This is the deliberate direction of travel, not just from the BBC but from ITV, Sky and BT Sport.

“From celebrating a five-yard pass to disputing every decision that went against his team, Savage did a grand job of embodying the emotions of every Wales supporter watching the game.”

However, Daniel Schofield does concede at the end of the article that perhaps England fans are only having to tolerate what Welsh and Scottish fans have put up with for decades.

“There will be no shortage of Welsh, Scottish and Irish readers happy to point out for much of the past 20 years they have had to put up with an overwhelming favouritism being shoved down their throat every time England are involved in a major tournament,” he ends.

“Which is true. Who knew that karma would come with blond locks and skinny jeans?”

Well Daily Torygraphy, welcome to what we have experienced for the last 30 years at least. England commentators have been using "we" to describe England all the way through.

The cringey "Breakfast with Beckham" nonsense spewed out by the resident tosser, John Motson, was probably the worst tournament ever for bias.

Let's not forget, even Giggs was calling England "we" in 2018 I think it was.
 

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All the sour grapes when we had a homecoming for the semis spoke volumes

You can see the author of that piece.

"Look at those Welsh, showing up for a tournament and enjoying it. They even enjoy it when they lose."

Bale misses a penalty - English mentality is to hang, draw and quarter him. In a game the next day a commentator said "Bale's penalty is still rising" (would never EVER be made a joke of if it was Kane). In fairness the pundit replied "Well, he's earned the right to miss one hasn't he?". England remember their best heroes for the moments where they failed.

Reminds me of a game at Arsenal in the cup. City fans singing. Arsenal go 1-0 up. One of their fans above us points to his ear "Can't hear you now can we" sort of stuff. City fans "Let's all have a disco, let's all have a disco" seconds after going 1 down. He couldn't understand it so much, he lost it and got chucked out by a steward.

England look downright miserable every tournament. It is bizarre, it's almost like they would rather be on a beach somewhere than playing at Wembley in front of a home crowd that boos them.
 

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I assume the writer of this piece has never heard Glenn Hoddle co commentate an England match :hehe:

Ray Wilkins, god bless him, used to call players by their nickname ffs:hehe:

Sam Mattaface was so condescending to the Jocks on Friday. I think Lyndon Dykes misses a chance and he said something along the lines of “He has scored two international goals, but they were only against Faroe Islands and Luxembourg”
 

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Sums it up perfectly.
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Spot on.

I get the impression that the England players are as annoyed with ‘their’ press as everyone else.

They really are a strange breed - act as though you’ve got a team of worldbeaters and then look for scapegoats as soon as the slightest thing goes wrong.

I can’t think of any other country that has such a bizarre mentality towards its own sports ‘heroes’
 

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Sums it up perfectly.
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I've always said this. Southgate seems a decent man but their media never learns. They showed some humility at the start of the WC but the bullshit bandwagon soon gained momentum and went into overdrive. Its like they can't help themselves
 

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Spot on.

I get the impression that the England players are as annoyed with ‘their’ press as everyone else.

They really are a strange breed - act as though you’ve got a team of worldbeaters and then look for scapegoats as soon as the slightest thing goes wrong.

I can’t think of any other country that has such a bizarre mentality towards its own sports ‘heroes’
Fans are the same.
Imagine wanting to drop one of the worlds best strikers because he hasn’t scored a goal in two games after receiving no service?

Bale hasn’t scored for 13 games, you wouldn’t see anything like that from our fans.
 

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The pro-Welsh and Scottish slant of coverage of the Euro 2020 championship is “getting out of hand,” and amounts to “jingoism” according to the Telegraph newspaper.

The newspaper’s TV columnist Alan Tyers criticised the “excessive” commentary of Robbie Savage at the Turkey v Wales game and the subdued commentary on the Czech Republic’s amazing second goal against Scotland at Hampden Park.

It comes after the same newspaper previously complained that coverage of Wales’ game against Turkey amounted to “one-eyed cheerleading” and condemned the BBC for “inflicting” Robbie Savage onto their screens.

NHrjOSJ.jpg


“Henry Blofeld told this writer a few years ago that his very first producer at the BBC had warned him: ‘the first day you refer to England as ‘we’ is the last day you work here.’ It would be P45s all round if they tried that at Euro 2020,” Alan Tyers said.

“Nobody is looking to Robbie Savage for sober assessment, but his work on Wales vs Turkey was excessive, while the all-Scottish pundit crew’s portrayal of the Patrik Schick wondergoal as a tragic accident served no-one.

“Folk from Wales and Scotland might justifiably argue they’ve had a lifetime of sports commentators assuming the punter is an England supporter, but this fans-with-microphones fashion is getting out of hand, and cuddly jingoism is jingoism nonetheless.”

He went on to note that “Graeme Souness and his teeth dominating the screen during the England vs Scotland match, to the extent that even Roy Keane was pushed onto the back foot. Ian Wright has thus far been subdued.”

‘Emotion’

Alan Tyler’s comments for the paper follow those of sports commentator Daniel Schofield who complained that the analysis in the Turkey v Wales game “was less a considered breakdown of Rob Page’s tactics than an exercise in one-eyed cheerleading that some cyclops would consider excessive”.

“To be clear this is not Savage’s fault. ‘Paschun’ and the wearing of heart on his sleeve like cufflinks is as much part of his brand as his suspicious all-year round tan. Instead it is the BBC who must bear responsibility for inflicting Savage upon our ears,” he wrote.

“Putting Savage on co-commentary and expecting dispassionate erudite analysis is like giving a Rottweiler a bunny rabbit and hoping they become friends. This is the deliberate direction of travel, not just from the BBC but from ITV, Sky and BT Sport.

“From celebrating a five-yard pass to disputing every decision that went against his team, Savage did a grand job of embodying the emotions of every Wales supporter watching the game.”

However, Daniel Schofield does concede at the end of the article that perhaps England fans are only having to tolerate what Welsh and Scottish fans have put up with for decades.

“There will be no shortage of Welsh, Scottish and Irish readers happy to point out for much of the past 20 years they have had to put up with an overwhelming favouritism being shoved down their throat every time England are involved in a major tournament,” he ends.

“Which is true. Who knew that karma would come with blond locks and skinny jeans?”
Well-written article; made me laugh in parts.
SJB
 

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Well-written article; made me laugh in parts.
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It's not a terrible article but I find applying the word jingoism to the Welsh and Scots fans a pisstake.

The points about bias are valid.
 
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