Cardiff City New loan player is Sheyi Ojo from Liverpool

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you've got the 2 amigos on the case now QM your doomed :hehe:
He’s the new amigo. f**k me I thought I can be critical / negative but this guy takes the piss.
Glass half empty be f**ked. Swear we were Liverpool or Man City.
 

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He’s the new amigo. f**k me I thought I can be critical / negative but this guy takes the piss.
Glass half empty be f**ked. Swear we were Liverpool or Man City.
Not at all, just being realistic.

I'd rather be wrong about Ojo but to me, based upon his history, doesn't look that great.
 

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QM has set his case out I”ll give him that. Some thought had gone into it. I personally think Ojo is a useful player at this level. I think he’ll be fine for us. Ideally for him I think he should have moved 2 years ago to be first team somewhere. I think you can stay on a good contact at a PL club too long. In fairness to the lad he’s been willing to go on loan and learn but nothing beats being a full time, signed for money pro in the changing room with all the expectations it brings.a
 

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I hope we can come back to this thread at the end of the season and give it a good f**king maring. Let’s see what the lad can do on the pitch.
 

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Camarasa absolutely.

Grujic? 6ft 3 playing like a dwarf with no legs. Endless cute little turns in own half whilst giving ball away... when faced with opposition midfielders running past had to grab them due to a lack of pace giving away silly yellows.

I hope Ojo plays well because that benefits the team BUT there's a difference between a team loaning a player out to help their development for the longer term and loaning out a playert knowing you almost certainly won't be keeping them but you're taking them off the wage bill.

It's now Ojo's 7th loan, not really stood out that well wherever he's been. As I said, I hope he does well but I believe previous performance tends to be a useful indicator.

Wolves on loan - less than half league games player. Fulham on loan, less than half league games played. Reims? Again less than half games played and shipped out to Reims II. Rangers? Less than half the league games played. For me that tends to indicate serious inconsistency. The fact Gerrard who would know him well from his Academy days dropped him from the pub league match day squad isn't impressive.

Maybe it's a case that Ojo now recognises he's in last chance saloon, Liverpool wise and will be motivated. I've just got doubts because we've been there before with Prem wingers - JET, Zaha et al all did the square root of f**k all.
Good player, his main problem was the players around him
 

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Nothing to do with fanboism, Ill judge with what I see in a City shirt not slate the guy and pull him apart before hes even pulled on the shirt.

Unless you followed his loan spells closely you are just going off stats which may not be telling the whole story. He was aged 18 playing for Wolves and 20 playing for Fulham, I dont think he was expected to be the main man for either and obviously played a part in Fulhams promotion in 2017/18. Gerrard obviously thought enough of him to take him to Rangers, it fizzled out after a good starts it semms but he wont be the first or last forward player to suffer from loss of form and consistency. Maybe it was his attitude and he needed a kick up the backside so Gerrard dropped him, who knows? He wont be the first young player to have a wake up call. The position he plays, if he was consistently at the top of his game we wouldnt be getting him on loan in the championship.

Its funny you should mention Zaha, another player City fans never gave a chance and hes proven at Palace he is a terrific player. Maybe if City fans had given him a chance and not got on his back we could have benefited more from him.

We could sign Cristiano Ronaldo and some people would moan hes not Lionel Messi.
Same with that nutter from Utd what’s his bastard name? He could’ve been top notch but doesn’t seem to have the mentality, like Zaha he needed a bit of love something you don’t see much of down here
 

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Same with that nutter from Utd what’s his bastard name? He could’ve been top notch but doesn’t seem to have the mentality, like Zaha he needed a bit of love something you don’t see much of down here
Ravel Morrison
 

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I'd be happy to be wrong, as I keep saying.
Then you should be happy because there are plenty of inaccuracies with what youve written on this thread to try and rubbish the guy.
 

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Camarasa absolutely.

Grujic? 6ft 3 playing like a dwarf with no legs. Endless cute little turns in own half whilst giving ball away... when faced with opposition midfielders running past had to grab them due to a lack of pace giving away silly yellows.

I hope Ojo plays well because that benefits the team BUT there's a difference between a team loaning a player out to help their development for the longer term and loaning out a playert knowing you almost certainly won't be keeping them but you're taking them off the wage bill.

It's now Ojo's 7th loan, not really stood out that well wherever he's been. As I said, I hope he does well but I believe previous performance tends to be a useful indicator.

Wolves on loan - less than half league games player. Fulham on loan, less than half league games played. Reims? Again less than half games played and shipped out to Reims II. Rangers? Less than half the league games played.
QM has set his case out I”ll give him that. Some thought had gone into it. I personally think Ojo is a useful player at this level. I think he’ll be fine for us. Ideally for him I think he should have moved 2 years ago to be first team somewhere. I think you can stay on a good contact at a PL club too long. In fairness to the lad he’s been willing to go on loan and learn but nothing beats being a full time, signed for money pro in the changing room with all the expectations it brings.a
A lot of thought and conjecture based on Wikepedia it seems. The post quoted above is littered with mIs truths when to scratch beneath the surface.
 

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If you're referring to me, the only Amigos I know are Chevy Chase and Martin Short... can't remember the other.
 
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