Should a black dude play James Bond next?

[QM Redux]

Jesus, what an absolute nightmare it is talking to you, you're all over the shop.

I know Bond isn't set in the bloody 50's, what we were talking about was "what if Bond was originally cast as a black man" to which you oddly responded "it would hardly have tapped into black culture" to which I disagreed.

It's hard work trying to remind you of what the conversation is about, could you just scroll back and look before responding?

You raised the issue of the 50s, not me...

The Bond series is a spy / action movie genre. The ethnicity and colour of the Bond character isn't that relevant especially for modern day movies. Shaft on the other hand was specifically cast and shot to reflect black culture... written about an African-American private detective, the book was handled by one of few African-American literary agents.

There's zero way Shaft could have featured a white person as the main character without a massive re-write, changing the intent of the film. The same isn't true about a non white male Bond movie.

 

[Popeye]

It will be good in the next one if Bond pulls a right sort. Gets her drunk on martinis and gets her back to to his luxury hotel suite. Takes her knicks down and is faced with a length Ron Jeremy would be proud.
Got to include our transgender friends as well in this.

 

[The Colonel]

You raised the issue of the 50s, not me...

The Bond series is a spy / action movie genre. The ethnicity and colour of the Bond character isn't that relevant especially for modern day movies. Shaft on the other hand was specifically cast and shot to reflect black culture... written about an African-American private detective, the book was handled by one of few African-American literary agents.

There's zero way Shaft could have featured a white person as the main character without a massive re-write, changing the intent of the film. The same isn't true about a non white male Bond movie.

Not the way I look at it.

If you cast a white Shaft you would have to pretend that the character's past was completely different from what has been shown previously.

Likewise, if you cast a black Bond you would have to also rewrite his past in your mind, because a black Bond would not have had the same past as a white Bond, not in a million years.

 

[Joecity]

Can Bond be gay? Is any one calling for this yet?

 

[stantys tattoos]

Can Bond be gay? Is any one calling for this yet?

only you big boy

 

[QM Redux]

Not the way I look at it.

If you cast a white Shaft you would have to pretend that the character's past was completely different from what has been shown previously.

Likewise, if you cast a black Bond you would have to also rewrite his past in your mind, because a black Bond would not have had the same past as a white Bond, not in a million years.

With Shaft, would also change current and future though. Would be a totally different story.

 

[Dr. Lecter]

Can Bond be gay? Is any one calling for this yet?

I know a welsh rugby player that would be fab-u-lous.

 

[Dr. Lecter]

Can Bond be gay? Is any one calling for this yet?

Shaken not bummed.

 

[The Colonel]

With Shaft, would also change current and future though. Would be a totally different story.

Changing race would inherently change both characters stories in different ways, that's my point, it's absurd.

The fact is, if it was proposed that Shaft would be changed to a white actor then people would have a problem with it and they'd quite rightly be heard.

But for Bond we just ignore everyone that would have a problem with it, probably just tell them they're being racist if they don't like it.

 

[Joecity]

Shaken not bummed.

Licensed to cottage.

 

[stantys tattoos]

Licensed to cottage.

brownfinger

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Can Bond be gay? Is any one calling for this yet?

I think it goes:

Black man
Woman
Black woman
Gay
Physical disability
Nicolas Cage

In that order. No cutting in line.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Licensed to cottage.

The Man With The Golden Bum

 

[The Colonel]

The Living Gaylights

 

[Joecity]

Live and let suck another mans penis.

 

[Steve R]

Blackfinger lol rofl

 

[Antifa]

Can Bond be gay? Is any one calling for this yet?

How about a gay black man

it would make this thread a world beater

 

[TH63]

All this talk about shaft has got this tune going on in my head

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Octopenis

 

[Steve R]

How about a gay black man

In a wheelchair.