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Just a quick poll guys - it's been hours since Splotty was asked for evidence about his claim Israel admitted organ harvesting and has failed to do so, how much longer should I give him before politely pointing out he's anti^H^H^H^H reneging on his claim to back everything up with evidence?
 

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Just a quick poll guys - it's been hours since Splotty was asked for evidence about his claim Israel admitted organ harvesting and has failed to do so, how much longer should I give him before politely pointing out he's anti^H^H^H^H reneging on his claim to back everything up with evidence?
Convince people you are splotto by taking 30 mins to put evidence in a paper bag
 

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Since "You know that every claim that I make is backed up", perhaps you can provide the evidence for your antisemitic claim?


"Mysterious Scottish death

In 1998 a Scot named Alisdair Sinclair died under questionable circumstances while in Israeli custody at Ben Gurion airport.

His family was informed of the death and, according to a report in J Weekly, “…told they had three weeks to come up with about $4,900 to fly Sinclair’s corpse home. [Alisdair’s brother] says the Israelis seemed to be pushing a different option: burying Sinclair in a Christian cemetery in Israel, at a cost of about $1,300.”

The family scraped up the money, brought the body home, and had an autopsy performed at the University of Glasgow. It turned out that Alisdair’s heart and a tiny throat bone were missing. At this point the British Embassy filed a complaint with Israel."



"In 2007 Israel’s Ha’aretz newspaper reported that two men confessed to persuading “Arabs from the Galilee and central Israel who were developmentally challenged or mentally ill to agree to have a kidney removed for payment.” They then would refuse to pay them.

The paper reported that the two were part of a criminal ring that included an Israeli surgeon. According to the indictment, the surgeon sold the kidneys he harvested for between $125,000 and $135,000. (13)

Earlier that year another Israeli newspaper, the Jerusalem Post, reported that ten members of an Israeli organ smuggling ring targeting Ukrainians had been arrested. (14)

In still another 2007 story, the Jerusalem Post reported that “Professor Zaki Shapira, one of Israel’s leading transplant surgeons, was arrested in Turkey on Thursday on suspicion of involvement in an organ trafficking ring. According to the report, the transplants were arranged in Turkey and took place at private hospitals in Istanbul.”

Israeli organ trafficking comes to the U.S.?

In July of this year even US media reported on the arrest of Levy Izhak Rosenbaum, from Brooklyn, recently arrested by federal officials in a massive corruption sweep in New Jersey that netted mayors, government officials and a number of prominent rabbis. Bostrom opens his article with this incident.

According to the federal complaint, Rosenbaum, who has close ties to Israel, said that he had been involved in the illegal sale of kidneys for 10 years. A US Attorney explained: “His business was to entice vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 which he would turn around and sell for $160,000.” (15)

This is reportedly the first case of international organ trafficking in the U.S.

University of California anthropologist and organ trade expert Nancy Scheper-Hughes, who informed the FBI about Rosenbaum seven years ago, says she heard reports that he had held donors at gunpoint to ensure they followed through on agreements to “donate” their organs."

"On January 4, 2002, Israel National News.com headlined, "Abu Kabir Operating Organ Warehouse," saying Hiss was:

"accused of a long list of charges from inappropriate behavior as a medical professional to criminal acts such as the illegal sale of and dealings in organs and body parts, removing organs from deceased persons without consent, and misrepresenting organs in returned bodies."
Other allegations were that:

"in some cases (organs he took without consent were stuffed with) toilet paper rolls and metallic rods in their place to fill the voids and hide the theft of the organs. A court-ordered search of the institute revealed large supplies of stored organs illegally taken from bodies," thousands taken without permission.
During the first Intifada and other times, Salam said she "personally witnessed how the Israeli military were kidnapping Palestinian bodies and gravely injured people from the emergency room of Princess Alia hospital in Hebron (and dead bodies from) Al-Ahli hospital." The area was declared a military zone, the hospitals surrounded and invaded, and no one was allowed to move inside them.

Israeli organ harvesting is a longstanding practice, well known by "most if not all the Israeli medical establishment (who) keep silent because they either get money, or they are rewarded in other ways...."

Jerusalem Center for Democracy and Human Rights Director, Salim Khalleh, said JDCHR documented 270 cases of "reserved" Palestinian bodies, buried in numbered graves in secret cemeteries, or in numbered compartments of cooling facilities.

According to the Palestinian National Authority (PA) Director of the Department of Statistics, Abed Al-Naser Ferwana, many Palestinians were murdered in detention during the second Intifada, their bodies kept in secret Israeli cemeteries, some released weeks later. He calls this more proof that their organs were harvested illegally."
 

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"Mysterious Scottish death

In 1998 a Scot named Alisdair Sinclair died under questionable circumstances while in Israeli custody at Ben Gurion airport.

His family was informed of the death and, according to a report in J Weekly, “…told they had three weeks to come up with about $4,900 to fly Sinclair’s corpse home. [Alisdair’s brother] says the Israelis seemed to be pushing a different option: burying Sinclair in a Christian cemetery in Israel, at a cost of about $1,300.”

The family scraped up the money, brought the body home, and had an autopsy performed at the University of Glasgow. It turned out that Alisdair’s heart and a tiny throat bone were missing. At this point the British Embassy filed a complaint with Israel."



"In 2007 Israel’s Ha’aretz newspaper reported that two men confessed to persuading “Arabs from the Galilee and central Israel who were developmentally challenged or mentally ill to agree to have a kidney removed for payment.” They then would refuse to pay them.

The paper reported that the two were part of a criminal ring that included an Israeli surgeon. According to the indictment, the surgeon sold the kidneys he harvested for between $125,000 and $135,000. (13)

Earlier that year another Israeli newspaper, the Jerusalem Post, reported that ten members of an Israeli organ smuggling ring targeting Ukrainians had been arrested. (14)

In still another 2007 story, the Jerusalem Post reported that “Professor Zaki Shapira, one of Israel’s leading transplant surgeons, was arrested in Turkey on Thursday on suspicion of involvement in an organ trafficking ring. According to the report, the transplants were arranged in Turkey and took place at private hospitals in Istanbul.”

Israeli organ trafficking comes to the U.S.?

In July of this year even US media reported on the arrest of Levy Izhak Rosenbaum, from Brooklyn, recently arrested by federal officials in a massive corruption sweep in New Jersey that netted mayors, government officials and a number of prominent rabbis. Bostrom opens his article with this incident.

According to the federal complaint, Rosenbaum, who has close ties to Israel, said that he had been involved in the illegal sale of kidneys for 10 years. A US Attorney explained: “His business was to entice vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 which he would turn around and sell for $160,000.” (15)

This is reportedly the first case of international organ trafficking in the U.S.

University of California anthropologist and organ trade expert Nancy Scheper-Hughes, who informed the FBI about Rosenbaum seven years ago, says she heard reports that he had held donors at gunpoint to ensure they followed through on agreements to “donate” their organs."

"On January 4, 2002, Israel National News.com headlined, "Abu Kabir Operating Organ Warehouse," saying Hiss was:


Other allegations were that:


During the first Intifada and other times, Salam said she "personally witnessed how the Israeli military were kidnapping Palestinian bodies and gravely injured people from the emergency room of Princess Alia hospital in Hebron (and dead bodies from) Al-Ahli hospital." The area was declared a military zone, the hospitals surrounded and invaded, and no one was allowed to move inside them.

Israeli organ harvesting is a longstanding practice, well known by "most if not all the Israeli medical establishment (who) keep silent because they either get money, or they are rewarded in other ways...."

Jerusalem Center for Democracy and Human Rights Director, Salim Khalleh, said JDCHR documented 270 cases of "reserved" Palestinian bodies, buried in numbered graves in secret cemeteries, or in numbered compartments of cooling facilities.

According to the Palestinian National Authority (PA) Director of the Department of Statistics, Abed Al-Naser Ferwana, many Palestinians were murdered in detention during the second Intifada, their bodies kept in secret Israeli cemeteries, some released weeks later. He calls this more proof that their organs were harvested illegally."
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No sources there for the wall of text.

The only credible source provided was that of the Guardian. Even then, it hardly proves your insinuations...
 

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I find it worrying that boys cant come on a football MB and not get caught up in a political situation.
Dear me mun
 

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No sources there for the wall of text.

The only credible source provided was that of the Guardian. Even then, it hardly proves your insinuations...
Yeah, those Israeli officials admitting it, are hardly credible sources. :hehe:

Bobby Ball has gone, but we still have you.
 

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Yeah, those Israeli officials admitting it, are hardly credible sources. :hehe:

Bobby Ball has gone, but we still have you.
It occurred in one specific lab... you want to apply to Israel as a whole for some strange reason.

At least you can rest assured your brain will never be harvested when you peg it.
 

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It occurred in one specific lab... you want to apply to Israel as a whole for some strange reason.

At least you can rest assured your brain will never be harvested when you peg it.
We've gone from it never happened, to one lab. Thousands and thousands of cases were found. You sure you haven't got Dr Mengele there.
 

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Yeah, those Israeli officials admitting it, are hardly credible sources. :hehe:

Bobby Ball has gone, but we still have you.
Take your arguments elsewhere init.
PM fuck off. Nice one:thumbup:
 

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We've gone from it never happened, to one lab. Thousands and thousands of cases were found. You sure you haven't got Dr Mengele there.
How predictable, throwing in a Nazi reference.

It never happened on the scale you allege. People weren't being murdered for organ harvesting as you claim, "thousands and thousands of cases" as you claim is your usual hyperbole based upon shit sources.
 

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No sources there for the wall of text.

The only credible source provided was that of the Guardian. Even then, it hardly proves your insinuations...
You don't get to arbitrate anything. You're a protagonist. You got a dog in the fight sweet cheeks.
 

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Starmer had little choice in the matter but he can make sure he doesn’t get his whip reinstated and Corbyn and his corbynites will then try and destroy the party rather than just fucking of like he should, why these corbynites can’t accept the Tory majority is there because of him is just plain idiotic
IMHO the bloke is a devious little shit.
Problem KS has is that many of the Unions and newer labour members love Jezza. That includes many in charge of the various committees.

Froghtening thing is whilst the shadow of Corbyn and Momentum hangs over Labour then the likes ofBoris, Hancock and Patel walk into power
 

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IMHO the bloke is a devious little shit.
Problem KS has is that many of the Unions and newer labour members love Jezza. That includes many in charge of the various committees.

Froghtening thing is whilst the shadow of Corbyn and Momentum hangs over Labour then the likes ofBoris, Hancock and Patel walk into power
It’s very frustrating, the public have made it very clear what they think of Corbyn and the far lefts radical ideas but instead of now looking like winning a GE at a canter the lefties will dig their heels in and ruin it for the party of the working man not the extreme left party
 

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IMHO the bloke is a devious little shit.
Problem KS has is that many of the Unions and newer labour members love Jezza. That includes many in charge of the various committees.

Froghtening thing is whilst the shadow of Corbyn and Momentum hangs over Labour then the likes ofBoris, Hancock and Patel walk into power
It's classic narcissism, I can't have the party so I'll make sure it'll be destroyed for you.
 

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IMHO the bloke is a devious little shit.
Problem KS has is that many of the Unions and newer labour members love Jezza. That includes many in charge of the various committees.

Froghtening thing is whilst the shadow of Corbyn and Momentum hangs over Labour then the likes ofBoris, Hancock and Patel walk into power
If anything it's KS who has been a 'devious little shit', renaging on policy promises that he backed to get elected, then launching a witch-hunt against socialists, in what is after all supposed to be a Socialist Party.[/QUOTE]
 
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