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So Boris came to Barry and didn’t take cairnsey and Graham out for a pint of watered down piss at spoons?
@Anotherbluebird will be seething enquat
 
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Conservatives have a 17 point lead over Labour in Hartlepool. They haven’t had a Tory MP since 1956. The Labour Party must now accept that they are in serious trouble with poorer constituencies. Corbyns inability to come off the fence over brexit has cost them dearly in the north.
 

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Conservatives have a 17 point lead over Labour in Hartlepool. They haven’t had a Tory MP since 1956. The Labour Party must now accept that they are in serious trouble with poorer constituencies. Corbyns inability to come off the fence over brexit has cost them dearly in the north.
Corbyn was the worst thing to happen to the U.K. in years
 

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Corbyn was the worst thing to happen to the U.K. in years
I’m afraid it’s hard to see it in any other way. Brexit was happening whatever post referendums. Should have supported it, makes it all the more baffling considering that was supposedly his private feelings anyway.

The middle class London lefties you might alienate are as nothing compared with large swaths of the north.

If you lose your core vote over something that’s already happened I’m afraid you’re an idiot.
 

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I’m afraid it’s hard to see it in any other way. Brexit was happening whatever post referendums. Should have supported it, makes it all the more baffling considering that was supposedly his private feelings anyway.

The middle class London lefties you might alienate are as nothing compared with large swaths of the north.

If you lose your core vote over something that’s already happened I’m afraid you’re an idiot.
Corbyn was great.

If you’re a Tory.

Or an idiot.
 

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I’m afraid it’s hard to see it in any other way. Brexit was happening whatever post referendums. Should have supported it, makes it all the more baffling considering that was supposedly his private feelings anyway.

The middle class London lefties you might alienate are as nothing compared with large swaths of the north.

If you lose your core vote over something that’s already happened I’m afraid you’re an idiot.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. Too much focus on the London lovies and the purists whilst ignoring the average Labour voters. Corbyn was there because of massive support within the party that wasn't reflective of their voters. It always felt to me that Corbyn dare not speak against the membership or reveal his true beliefs on Brexit - both of these made him look weak and disingenuous.
The obsession that senior Labour politicians had with identity politics and reversing Brexit was frankly baffling to post industrial areas.
 

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Corbyn was the worst thing to happen to the U.K. in years
Thanks for this Kiff.

Soon as Splotty sees this, Gareth may as well start work on my 400 pager banner
 

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I think you've hit the nail on the head there. Too much focus on the London lovies and the purists whilst ignoring the average Labour voters. Corbyn was there because of massive support within the party that wasn't reflective of their voters. It always felt to me that Corbyn dare not speak against the membership or reveal his true beliefs on Brexit - both of these made him look weak and disingenuous.
The obsession that senior Labour politicians had with identity politics and reversing Brexit was frankly baffling to post industrial areas.

Hang on a mo - Corbyn won Hartlepool majorities twice, in 2017 and 2019

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