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It's more likely that the economic downfall will hit the poorest hardest... just like 2008 did (and still does).
Yeah but the difference being is we know how to get through it.
 
A generation that preceded you, fought for and died for the right to enable you to say this.
Do you think that they are in the special place ?

They weren’t brexiteers mate

They fought against the kind of shite fuling the Brexit vote
 
Yeah but the difference being is we know how to get through it.
Too true, having survived the bad times in the 70's, 3 day week etc, and the mass unemployment of the 80's, 15% interest on the mortgage, building firms laying everyone off and taking us back on for cash in hand, for a fifth of what we were earning, no insurance, no holiday money, fuck me I'll survive anything after those years I reckon.
 
Apparently we will still be able to make our own rules, like we did before. Oh, and in a country with a GDP of £2 trillion (£2,000,000,000,000), we will not be giving the EU £13bn (£13,000,000,000). In other words, 0.65% of the country's GDP is going to be saved! That's the same as you losing £65 when you have £10,000 in your pocket.

GDP is forecast to fall by (at best) 3%. That is £60,000,000,000 - or £47,000,000,000 more lost than if we continued to stay in the EU. I am wrong, it's actually more because the UK GDP is forecast to grow by about 1.5% if we remained in the EU (approximately another £30bn). So, to save £13bn, it is going to cost the economy a forecast £77bn.

Companies are moving HQs over seas. The hope is that the UK will lower corporation tax, to keep those companies here. Paying less tax. So, with less revenues, and with a forecast rise in unemployment (and benefits) to 8% - it will be hard to see how the UK can pass on good news to the people.

Tarriffs will mean some goods will go up in price - so inflation will rise in the short term. How is that going to be dealt with? Probably with interest rate rises. So, if you are lucky enough to keep your job, you will have less spending power than pre-Brexit. That means that you are less likely to buy that new car, or have a meal out, or any of the other things that businesses rely on.

And all because the banker Farage, the patriot seen laughing at the falling pound on referendum night, convinced the factory workers in Sunderland that he was one of them. Or that Boris Johnson based his decision to back the leave campaign because it was more likely to suit his ambitions to be Prime Minister, or that multi-millionaire Jacob Rees-Mogg (recently moving some of his business to Ireland, or Dyson (recently moving his HQ to Singapore) are patriots who care about Britain!

Johnson actually wrote two articles for the rag he wrote for - one a passionate defence of membership of the EU, the other not. He doesn't care either way.


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A well balanced, reasoned post

People who voted Brexit stand to gain absolutely fucking nothing

Sorry if that offends
 
Yeah but the difference being is we know how to get through it.

True, and we usually manage to cope - but I don't feel the community spirit that was around in the 80s when my dad was jobless and people would come around with food. We have food banks instead and you'll often see a Tory MP in one with a cameraman.

The thing is, the UK has 2 major costs at the moment. Welfare (most of it being the state pension), and the NHS. It's struggling to keep both going, and has preferred to cut other things instead. Those things are now cut to the bone, so with lower tax revenues (everyone knows tax revenues will take a hit) - which is going to go? The NHS, or the pensions?
 
Yeah your probably right, but the EU are starting to get a bit nervous judging on comments today teresa may has got the ball in the corner and is running down the clock.

Yes she is. Only problem is we’re three nil down and need to win to avoid relegation
 
A well balanced, reasoned post

People who voted Brexit stand to gain absolutely fucking nothing

Sorry if that offends

Not true, we take back control of are borders and are sovrinty.
 
Yes she is. Only problem is we’re three nil down and need to win to avoid relegation

And she's just looked down and spotted she had a melon instead of a ball, and the EU are running up the pitch with the actual ball and are looking for a 4th.
 
Too true, having survived the bad times in the 70's, 3 day week etc, and the mass unemployment of the 80's, 15% interest on the mortgage, building firms laying everyone off and taking us back on for cash in hand, for a fifth of what we were earning, no insurance, no holiday money, fuck me I'll survive anything after those years I reckon.

Why would people be okay with losing prosperity?
 
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Most of the generation you speak of were long dead before the vote took place.

Keeping it serious, I consider war in humane and serious, I do realise they are gone now, my father in law was a survivor of the D Day landings
we had a few discussions of that day before he passed on, and i (belong to wife) have a couple of German belongings in my house from the beach,
also his medals reside over our fireplace. I'll bat either way with Brexit although consider the vote should be respected, but would also not be too bothered if a 2nd vote enacted
Tuskies comments IMO would tip the balance further towards leave. :thumbup:
 
True, and we usually manage to cope - but I don't feel the community spirit that was around in the 80s when my dad was jobless and people would come around with food. We have food banks instead and you'll often see a Tory MP in one with a cameraman.

The thing is, the UK has 2 major costs at the moment. Welfare (most of it being the state pension), and the NHS. It's struggling to keep both going, and has preferred to cut other things instead. Those things are now cut to the bone, so with lower tax revenues (everyone knows tax revenues will take a hit) - which is going to go? The NHS, or the pensions?
Why would people be okay with losing prosperity?
What I've put up with in the 70's and 80's means that fuck all scares me anymore
 
Too true, having survived the bad times in the 70's, 3 day week etc, and the mass unemployment of the 80's, 15% interest on the mortgage, building firms laying everyone off and taking us back on for cash in hand, for a fifth of what we were earning, no insurance, no holiday money, fuck me I'll survive anything after those years I reckon.
My parents grew up in the 30s in Merthyr when times were really tough but they knuckled down and lived within their means and got through. It's in the blood Al.
 
What I've put up with in the 70's and 80's means that fuck all scares me anymore

Why should we even have a race to the bottom? How would we progress with that mentality?
 
My parents grew up in the 30s in Merthyr when times were really tough but they knuckled down and lived within their means and got through. It's in the blood Al.

4 words: martial law in Pakistan
 
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