Nathan Trott

[Ponty and pop]

Agree we need to see more but writing him off after one performance where he was basically our only player in our half for most of the game seems a bit premature

Ok I accept that.
The other side of that is he had a good opportunity to impress.
I never heard anyone say the keeper had no chance but I did hear at least twice the keeper should have done better.
I really hope I am wrong honestly but sometimes you see a player and get a feeling about him.
Hopefully I got this one wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Can't think of a gimmick]

How have we signed him when the transfer window isn't open?

Pre contract... Signed, contract doesn't start till next window opens.

 

[bluethrough™]

Ok I accept that.
The other side of that is he had a good opportunity to impress.
I never heard anyone say the keeper had no chance but I did hear at least twice the keeper should have done better.
I really hope I am wrong honestly but sometimes you see a player and get a feeling about him.
Hopefully I got this one wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

BBM will have a better idea by seasons start, he'll probably give him a run of games at some point but if he's not up to it he won't be playing, simples.

I think that last day was just one of those mad days in football that happen

 

[Gary Madine's Fight Club]

To be honest any keeper would look good against Northampton on that day. We need to see a bit more of him .

and in the same vein any keeper would look poor against Mansfield on that day.

 

[Gary Madine's Fight Club]

Ok I accept that.
The other side of that is he had a good opportunity to impress.
I never heard anyone say the keeper had no chance but I did hear at least twice the keeper should have done better.
I really hope I am wrong honestly but sometimes you see a player and get a feeling about him.
Hopefully I got this one wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

Looking at the goals again - link:
View: https://youtu.be/5qbEFytPuGs?is=vnjB9sSo0a0xUIXx


First: No chance, Willock lost his man at the front post for the short ball and couldn't get through the crowd to the back post in time. Also made a great save from the exact same thing happening beforehand.

Second: No chance, one on one from the halfway line with no centre half cover. Striker maneuvered him into the middle of his goal and placed it well into the bottom corner.

Third: Another tough one as placed into the side netting in the opposite corner. Putting this on him would be harsh.

Fourth: Another one that was a one on one from the halfway line and he visibly loses his footing on the penalty spot leaving an easy chip over him for the striker.

Fifth: This is the only one I think blame can be apportioned and even then I don't think it's critically on him. He's facing an incoming winger pushing onto their stronger right foot going across goal but because he's going so far across he's got no choice but to move into the centre of the goal and it's well placed to the side he's moving away from. Maybe a little bit of blame as he's flat footed but equally it's a well placed shot and more importantly a well timed shot from the winger.

I think anyone giving him serious doubts after this game is being a bit harsh really. I know conceding five makes it look like the keepers had a shite game but he made more good saves than mistakes leading to goals against Mansfield and more crucially the entire team was on the beach or nursing serious hangovers - if they were old enough to drink that is.

 

[Ponty and pop]

Looking at the goals again - link:
View: https://youtu.be/5qbEFytPuGs?is=vnjB9sSo0a0xUIXx


First: No chance, Willock lost his man at the front post for the short ball and couldn't get through the crowd to the back post in time. Also made a great save from the exact same thing happening beforehand.

Second: No chance, one on one from the halfway line with no centre half cover. Striker maneuvered him into the middle of his goal and placed it well into the bottom corner.

Third: Another tough one as placed into the side netting in the opposite corner. Putting this on him would be harsh.

Fourth: Another one that was a one on one from the halfway line and he visibly loses his footing on the penalty spot leaving an easy chip over him for the striker.

Fifth: This is the only one I think blame can be apportioned and even then I don't think it's critically on him. He's facing an incoming winger pushing onto their stronger right foot going across goal but because he's going so far across he's got no choice but to move into the centre of the goal and it's well placed to the side he's moving away from. Maybe a little bit of blame as he's flat footed but equally it's a well placed shot and more importantly a well timed shot from the winger.

I think anyone giving him serious doubts after this game is being a bit harsh really. I know conceding five makes it look like the keepers had a shite game but he made more good saves than mistakes leading to goals against Mansfield and more crucially the entire team was on the beach or nursing serious hangovers - if they were old enough to drink that is.

Sorry not all his fault but he looked like a fish out of water not knowing what to do and ended up doing very little

 

[Gary Madine's Fight Club]

Sorry not all his fault but he looked like a fish out of water not knowing what to do and ended up doing very little

Yes, but look at the situations he's been put in.

His defence left him high and dry multiple times, no wonder he looked a fish out of water out of times.

Two of those one on ones are right down the middle of the pitch which as a keeper is a nightmare because you're fully at the mercy of the striker. Far easier than when they're positioned fully at one side and you can block one post and force them to shoot across you - which is what Tyrer was trying to do for the fifth until the defence let him get all the way across and he had to scramble to the middle of the goal which again is where you never ever want to be.

Those two breakaway goals are absolutely ridiculous - we've got centre halves ten yards inside the opposition half leaving one ball through the middle to get through and he's just on an island of his own with nowhere to go.

Even Trott at his best wouldn't have done much better that game.

 

[Ponty and pop]

It all comes down to your own vibes on a player.
No doubt the defence put him in a vulnerable position twice but we will see. It's in all our interests that he turns out to be up.to it.

 

[bluethrough™]

Yes, but look at the situations he's been put in.

His defence left him high and dry multiple times, no wonder he looked a fish out of water out of times.

Two of those one on ones are right down the middle of the pitch which as a keeper is a nightmare because you're fully at the mercy of the striker. Far easier than when they're positioned fully at one side and you can block one post and force them to shoot across you - which is what Tyrer was trying to do for the fifth until the defence let him get all the way across and he had to scramble to the middle of the goal which again is where you never ever want to be.

Those two breakaway goals are absolutely ridiculous - we've got centre halves ten yards inside the opposition half leaving one ball through the middle to get through and he's just on an island of his own with nowhere to go.

Even Trott at his best wouldn't have done much better that game.

And it was only his second appearance and to have it in that game of all game, I just don't think you can judge really

 

[Can't think of a gimmick]

Looking at the goals again - link:
View: https://youtu.be/5qbEFytPuGs?is=vnjB9sSo0a0xUIXx


First: No chance, Willock lost his man at the front post for the short ball and couldn't get through the crowd to the back post in time. Also made a great save from the exact same thing happening beforehand.

Second: No chance, one on one from the halfway line with no centre half cover. Striker maneuvered him into the middle of his goal and placed it well into the bottom corner.

Third: Another tough one as placed into the side netting in the opposite corner. Putting this on him would be harsh.

Fourth: Another one that was a one on one from the halfway line and he visibly loses his footing on the penalty spot leaving an easy chip over him for the striker.

Fifth: This is the only one I think blame can be apportioned and even then I don't think it's critically on him. He's facing an incoming winger pushing onto their stronger right foot going across goal but because he's going so far across he's got no choice but to move into the centre of the goal and it's well placed to the side he's moving away from. Maybe a little bit of blame as he's flat footed but equally it's a well placed shot and more importantly a well timed shot from the winger.

I think anyone giving him serious doubts after this game is being a bit harsh really. I know conceding five makes it look like the keepers had a shite game but he made more good saves than mistakes leading to goals against Mansfield and more crucially the entire team was on the beach or nursing serious hangovers - if they were old enough to drink that is.

Don't forget some of our fanbase blasted the club for signing Marshall as he conceded 70 goals and Norwich had been relegated.

Their assessment of a goalkeeper is purely to look at the scoreline.