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Look how little her line is.
Bring her back
Choppy sea when she was PM.
375 thousand jobs will be lost this year because of the national insurance hike by reeves. Truss was an absolute disaster but at this moment we pay a full percentage point more in interest on our loans for gilt bonds than we did at at the height of her disastrous spell.
reform will be no better but will get in because people will vote for anything other than the current alternatives.
reeves is clueless and hasent been an economist since 2010 and she is on borrowed time until starmer throws her under the bus.
the country needs to be run by the best business brains in the country but they are being driven away from the Uk by current policies.
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Alan’s still here mate
I do actually.
The better of the two evils. Better the devil you know etc.
There are centuries and generations of knowledge and philosophy behind those two phrases and there are just as many reasons for that.
Although my thinking recently is that we are fucked by the two horse system, all ends up. And it's nothing to do with red or blue, left or right.
Exactly as it is in America. It's all a facade.
My feeling is that Labour get in, raise taxes to raise public spending and we all feel the social benefits for a while, then the Tories come in and hoover up said public wealth extractions (aka 'Austerity') and remove them offshore to who knows who, and off we all go again.
But each time significantly diminishing the wealth (and health) of the country (and I mean the UK there).
You can make your own minds up on who actually controls the creation and flow of money. There are plenty of juicy options floating around.
'Just follow the money" is the only constant I've found to be true in my 49 years of all this bollox.
What's your answer to it all Steve?
Are those jobs really going to be lost? The reason I am asking is that there are plenty of jobs around and the company I have joined have brought in loads of new employees in 2 months. I think it's about 30.
What is it about Reeves that makes her useless? I see interest rates dropped again this month.
I have had my business for 27 years mike and i employ 40 people who all pay into the pot. my company pays employers NI on top of their Ni and contributes towards their pension pots.
The NI hike on employers has meant that i have put my costs up to cover the increase and as i do a lot for the NHS in Wales obviously their funds available to improve the service will get smaller as obviously all suppliers to them will do the same.
all the supermarkets and the haulage contractors who fill their shelves will have passed these costs on to the consumer as we can see most days when we shop.
the hospitality sector was struggling enough but that hike has meant more pubs are closing on a weekly basis.
375k jobs are forecast to have been lost in this year by the ONS and vacancies that were high have disappeared as nobody wants to take anyone on at the minute.
Skilled labour in this country is at an all time low apprenticeship's are few and far between and the kids today don't want to go on site and get their hands dirty anyway because unlike probably us who came home from school and kicked a football until dark they are straight up the stairs to the computer or Play station.
Covid played a huge part where lots of office staff have continued to stay at home and so city centres have lost that footfall and the income they brought to shops etc.
I think we are to late for a reset Mike that ship has sailed so we will continue to get one incompetent government replaced by another incompetent government until the lid gets screwed down.
The rates have gone down since Labour came in to power, they've never gone up.
you cant do a hike like that which affects employers and ups costs for consumers and expect the economy to grow.
with regards to interest rates did you see that they had to vote twice for the first time in the history of the panel as they were split on dropping them to soon as inflation is still to high
Not asking you specifically but more of a general question for the forum.
We keep hearing about how all these countries have massive debt but it’s all a load of bollocks really isn’t it?
Who do we owe it to - the bank? wonga? Another country?
What if we can no longer pay?
Can we get it written off if we just go bankrupt?
Does anyone even know?
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Everyone slagged off Truss but she sorted em out.yeah gwan starmles you useless cunt
Look how little her line is.
Bring her back
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Choppy sea when she was PM.
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WEED CLUB Being in charge for less time than it takes a lettuce to perish probably helped too.
'Lettuce in' came the cries from the Calais side
And then Priti Patel gave us numberwang
I'm sure even the likes of @Nugent @TDA and @steve davies will shudder at times like those above
And will rejoice in the new Labour Government
And will rejoice in the new Labour Government
Both as shit as each other there’s no way anybody can take any high roads the only losers are us normal working people.
Do you really believe we are better off under any of them mike. Starmer fought the election on stopping the boats and he is failing miserably. i notice there are plenty of mares and disagreement ratings but none of you come back with a credible answer except to blame the cretins who came before.
375 thousand jobs will be lost this year because of the national insurance hike by reeves. Truss was an absolute disaster but at this moment we pay a full percentage point more in interest on our loans for gilt bonds than we did at at the height of her disastrous spell.
reform will be no better but will get in because people will vote for anything other than the current alternatives.
reeves is clueless and hasent been an economist since 2010 and she is on borrowed time until starmer throws her under the bus.
the country needs to be run by the best business brains in the country but they are being driven away from the Uk by current policies.
Alan’s still here mate
I do actually.
The better of the two evils. Better the devil you know etc.
There are centuries and generations of knowledge and philosophy behind those two phrases and there are just as many reasons for that.
Although my thinking recently is that we are fucked by the two horse system, all ends up. And it's nothing to do with red or blue, left or right.
Exactly as it is in America. It's all a facade.
My feeling is that Labour get in, raise taxes to raise public spending and we all feel the social benefits for a while, then the Tories come in and hoover up said public wealth extractions (aka 'Austerity') and remove them offshore to who knows who, and off we all go again.
But each time significantly diminishing the wealth (and health) of the country (and I mean the UK there).
You can make your own minds up on who actually controls the creation and flow of money. There are plenty of juicy options floating around.
'Just follow the money" is the only constant I've found to be true in my 49 years of all this bollox.
What's your answer to it all Steve?
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Are those jobs really going to be lost? The reason I am asking is that there are plenty of jobs around and the company I have joined have brought in loads of new employees in 2 months. I think it's about 30.
What is it about Reeves that makes her useless? I see interest rates dropped again this month.
I believe the country is on the road to bankruptcy if we are not careful mike and i point the finger at all the governments for the past 30 years who have all played a part. As your point above it is a merry go round where labour do exactly what you say above and then when the fall out happens they are slung in to the wilderness and in come the Tories to hoover up although we both know that wont happen this time.
I have had my business for 27 years mike and i employ 40 people who all pay into the pot. my company pays employers NI on top of their Ni and contributes towards their pension pots.
The NI hike on employers has meant that i have put my costs up to cover the increase and as i do a lot for the NHS in Wales obviously their funds available to improve the service will get smaller as obviously all suppliers to them will do the same.
all the supermarkets and the haulage contractors who fill their shelves will have passed these costs on to the consumer as we can see most days when we shop.
the hospitality sector was struggling enough but that hike has meant more pubs are closing on a weekly basis.
375k jobs are forecast to have been lost in this year by the ONS and vacancies that were high have disappeared as nobody wants to take anyone on at the minute.
Skilled labour in this country is at an all time low apprenticeship's are few and far between and the kids today don't want to go on site and get their hands dirty anyway because unlike probably us who came home from school and kicked a football until dark they are straight up the stairs to the computer or Play station.
Covid played a huge part where lots of office staff have continued to stay at home and so city centres have lost that footfall and the income they brought to shops etc.
I think we are to late for a reset Mike that ship has sailed so we will continue to get one incompetent government replaced by another incompetent government until the lid gets screwed down.
The maths genius says "Truss was an absolute disaster but at this moment we pay a full percentage point more in interest on our loans for gilt bonds than we did at at the height of her disastrous spell."
The rates have gone down since Labour came in to power, they've never gone up.
Ive posted below ade regarding the NI hike which i think was a mistake. the 375k lost jobs are from the ONS and yesterday they announced that the more jobs were lost in july making that a fall in 10 of the last 12 months.
you cant do a hike like that which affects employers and ups costs for consumers and expect the economy to grow.
with regards to interest rates did you see that they had to vote twice for the first time in the history of the panel as they were split on dropping them to soon as inflation is still to high
Just out of interest has a country ever gone bankrupt?
Not asking you specifically but more of a general question for the forum.
We keep hearing about how all these countries have massive debt but it’s all a load of bollocks really isn’t it?
Who do we owe it to - the bank? wonga? Another country?
What if we can no longer pay?
Can we get it written off if we just go bankrupt?
Does anyone even know?
