I remember when palace started all this ultra crap a few years back and we were up there underneath the concourse at half time and there was a fence with a gate separating us from the hooded freaks. they were screaming all sorts of insults at us from behind the fence when one of the lads casually went and tried the gate between us to find it unlocked. i have never seen a concourse empty so quickly in my life they were ultra fast to run away in fairnessI was in Hamburg lady November and hundreds of them walking around all dressed in black like they were in an army battalion. They were behaving well enough from what I saw but found it a bit weird